Should anime adapt to global sensibilities, or stay true to its cultural roots?

@DigiCat

An observation, during my time interacting with those kinds of people means I am obsessed? Kay.

Kay lol

So who gets to determine what community is valid or not? It isn't just a few trolls in my experience but okay.

If you want to lawyer down every frivolous comment I make on an internet forum, and use that as a way to bludgeon whatever I say fair enough. Though I have said over and over a lot.....in my experience. I just don't qualify that in every single comment I make, because I just kinda assume that is the base assumption, as we aren't all social scientists here but whatever.

At best I will give you that I am prone to not wording everything exactly as I how intend it. Though I don't ensure everything is perfect, since we are on a casual internet forum, not a court of law. If my intentions are meaningless, than I don't know what else I can really say to that. If you want to battle just on semantics then yeah I will admit I probably will lose that battle. I have tried to clarify and give context, to what I have said though.

Still it just feels like in my experience, there are a lot of anime fans that are hateful, and then you come in and say well is that truly actually objectively representative, when I never made a claim that it was.


Yeah, I mean for me, and this in regards to real life, not the internet. Others not so lucky. Plus yeah even those comments, do impact how safe you feel to be open with who you are. Most people assume I am straight and I largely intentionally keep it that way. Like I don't get why you are imposing your feelings on mine, regarding my own life experiences?

Anyway, I don't feel this conversation is really going anywhere productive. If you feel that there is anymore to be said, feel free. I just am losing interest in it.

I am only here to watch Digicat and BilboBaggins365 shit on each other.

@JoeChip Welp you are going to be rewarded today.

@DigiCat


You know I have tried to be polite, however, you have not been that way at all in this discussion in pursuit of trying to win an internet argument. Yeah I have had people close to me make not so great comments about LGBT people. Do you think that doesn't impact me? That maybe that does keep me in the closet hmmm?

I am downplaying it because it's literally nothing to being actually persecuted or abused. That and as a bi/pan man, I can still get away with hiding, unlike people who are just gay. I brought this up to demonstrate that even in the West yeah people don't feel accepted, because you do often feel on the defense. That is all I was trying to say.



I am brushing it off because I don't think it's severe, that doesn't mean it's good or that I wouldn't prefer to not have to put up a false image to people.... ? That isn't a contradiction, you are just being insensitive, to win an internet argument. This discussion has drifted so far off course. This is literally in response, to saying yeah it's not just online, because it hasn't just been online for me... Again no contradiction.

You yourself have made contradictions implying I am obsessed with politics when anyone can go back through this thread and see that you made it about politics.

The only thing that at best was a contradiction in what I said, is that yeah on SW. And, that was just poor wording. Anyway this is the last time I am going to explain myself.

What I meant is that the hype and interest in SW had died down, that many fans were just making fun of Disney for being hypocritical. That doesn't ignore the fact yeah lots of fans were homophobic or racist (you can see this later with Kenobi's casting or John or Kelly's experience) or that Disney censored it internationally, cause they knew they wouldn't be able to release it in many countries. Am I implying all the fans were like that? No! Am I implying that critics of Disney SW were all like that? No! I am one lol. One of the reasons I got into Gundam and mecha was being dissatisfied with SW, around when TLJ came out. However, there were enough people saying hateful things to be noticeable. The actors at least did.

That is true with people who complain about politics. Yeah there are people who complain who just want to keep to their escapism, and you know what that's fine. Though I am not going to downplay what else I have found. I just find there is a decent (is decent okay to imply a fair amount but not everyone or a majority? lol) amount of people out there that are just hiding behind the "I want just good writing" label, when their good writing is very specific, and not accepting. Again in my fucking experiance, if you have a different experiance cool. I also just want "good writing" and don't always feel "progressive writing" does live up to "good writing" however, when you start agreeing with these people and talking to them... yeah in my experiance, I have encountered a lot of not very nice people.

Like that was fucking it. That was my intention kay.... this isn't Ace Attorney, where you get a pat on the back for pointing on contradictions. It's a casual discussion. I tried to clarify and your whole thing is nope don't accept that clarification and now my credibility is at stake. What lol? You are such an exhausting person. Anyway I have clarified, what this entire back and forth between you and me has been about.

If that isn't enough, fine you won the internet debate......
Edit: Honestly yeah this is my final comment.